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Aris · Oct 12, 2005, 10:44 PM // 22:44

i havnt started playing yet, need to wait till mid month pay check. but im very interested. i just have one major question before i roll a character.

what are the "overplayed" proffessions? and the "underplayed" ones?

also, what jobs does every party always want.

for pve and pvp. and if its different between the 2 please specify.

i just dont want to make a character to find out later that im the "rogue from world of warcraft" kind of proffesion and no one wants me cause theirs a million too many of me already.

thanks.

b3h3m0th · Oct 12, 2005, 10:54 PM // 22:54

lots of ppl play Warriors in this game (W/Mo to be exact) but the player that probably never gets accepted to mission is mesmers... dunno about monks now, for me its been easier getting monks

Tzhebee · Oct 12, 2005, 10:54 PM // 22:54

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what are the "overplayed" proffessions? and the "underplayed" ones?

warrior/monk is most overplayed. Underplayed would probably be a mesmer/xx

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also, what jobs does every party always want.

In general, a good healer...and for some reason, the vast majority of people assume you must be a monk primary to be a good healer.

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for pve and pvp. and if its different between the 2 please specify.

Yes, it is probably different. My answers are based on PvE. I think that PvP is more specific based on flavor of the month builds, but don't quote me on that as I rarely PvP.

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i just dont want to make a character to find out later that im the "rogue from world of warcraft" kind of proffesion and no one wants me cause theirs a million too many of me already.

Then don't make a war/mo.

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thanks.

Anytime.

Aris · Oct 12, 2005, 11:01 PM // 23:01

awsome thanks. i almost never play melee characters in rpg's. i always prefer the ranged nuking class like mage and ranger. ive been eyeballing an elem/mesmer or an elem/monk.

could you tell me if any proffesion has an edge when it comes to "maximum range" when doing damage, or is it the same for everyone?

Feloriene Bluewolf · Oct 12, 2005, 11:08 PM // 23:08

My main character is a Ranger/Elementalist build which I've found to be a healthy ranged damage dealer

. Some worry about the energy drain, but I've never experienced a problem with it - and it only gets better with some good runes and weapon upgrades

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I also caved and created a W/Mo to try it out, but I've yet to get one past pre-searing (get bored and delete her to make way for testing other builds out). I'm keen to combine the Monk's speedy energy recharge with the Ele's energy storage.

Tzhebee · Oct 12, 2005, 11:17 PM // 23:17

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could you tell me if any proffesion has an edge when it comes to "maximum range" when doing damage, or is it the same for everyone?

If you mean range as in how far away a character is before you can hit it, then it depends on the weapon more than the profession. Longbows have the longest range, standard bows, wands and staffs are next while melee weapons are of course very close combat. And all weapons can be used by any class, but you need to be proficient (skill wise) in the weapon to get full use/damage from it.

But if you are taking area effect damage, then I believe an elementalist has the biggest and most AOE damage.

Aris · Oct 12, 2005, 11:27 PM // 23:27

yeah i mean how far away from your target can you be

and what about just regular spells vs say a longbow?

and are elementalist AOE's all in a circle around the caster? or are their aoe's that i can cast on say a foe 30meters ahead of me and it effect everything around him

and you said "wands and staff are next", do you mean they are considered ranged weapons, ie: they shoot somthing from them. or are they melee weapons like swords and axes.

HawkofStorms · Oct 13, 2005, 12:01 AM // 00:01

About AOEs, the answer is both. Different AOE skills do different things. For example, Inferno casts around the caster, while Searing Heat casts on a target location.

Aris · Oct 13, 2005, 12:20 AM // 00:20

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About AOEs, the answer is both. Different AOE skills do different things. For example, Inferno casts around the caster, while Searing Heat casts on a target location.

ok.... soo.... what is the "maximum range" for spells cast on other targets?

or if you dont know.. is it further than the longest bow range? or closer? or the same?

Melkor of ZoSo · Oct 13, 2005, 12:29 AM // 00:29

Usualy an Ele/x or a Ranger/Ele can be about... 25 feet from the enemy? But that doesnt really matter, I assure you. You can attack with distance spells and still be out of your enemies range of vision. It will come to you quickly. If you want a ranged nuker, go with Ranger/Elementalist or Elementalist/Monk. The latter will probably serve you better for self sufficience, but the Ranger/Elementalist can do more (Interupt oponents, have a pet, etc.) I always say that facing a Rng/Ele is like facing someone with a rocket launcher.

NeXuS8 · Oct 13, 2005, 12:34 AM // 00:34

There is distance for spells ur character casts it if they within the argro circle displayed on map, bows have diferent disatnces spells dont

Aris · Oct 13, 2005, 12:35 AM // 00:35

so a ranger would be able to hit an elementalist way before an elementalist can cast a damage spell on the ranger?

NeXuS8 · Oct 13, 2005, 12:36 AM // 00:36

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so a ranger would be able to hit an elementalist way before an elementalist can cast a damage spell on the ranger?

Yea if it has a long bow but not way before just a few steps closer

but the thing is u can evade arrows moving to the sides (manually evading it) or it can just miss if it hits u

Aris · Oct 13, 2005, 12:49 AM // 00:49

so a long bow has only a slight range advantage against an elementalist spells, but arrows can be dodge, and spells cant?

lets pretend you build a ranger and an elementalist to do as much ranged damage as possible. and pretend that the rangers target didnt "manually" dodge any arrows. which proffesion would have a higher DPS?

Rico Carridan · Oct 13, 2005, 03:25 AM // 03:25

Against a single target, I think a ranger would have a higher DPS than an elementalist. Elementalist spells can have longer casting times that can be detrimental to raw DPS, although they can still spike reasonably well (which is arguably more important that constant DPS, though rangers are excellent spikers too). Against multiple targets (particularly in PvE), elementalist is the most powerful by a good margin. With possibly the exception of certain monk or warrior builds in very specific situations.

Rico

BeatWolf · Oct 13, 2005, 03:56 AM // 03:56

Mesmers need a boost pve wise, pvp wise they can own alot but also die alot

HANK · Oct 13, 2005, 04:11 AM // 04:11

I think elem make a huge difference with their nukin when playin, especially the later missions; more diffficult. All classes have their purpose. W/mo is very popular and monks are always in demand (specially harder missions). But just cause you're a monk or elem doesn't mean people will take you. We had a monk 2 days ago lvl 20, going into fow who didn't bring a res. wow, that was sad. However if you're good at what your class is meant to do, people will want you.

William The Smasher · Oct 13, 2005, 04:39 AM // 04:39

i personally play a r/e and i love it. it does quite a bit of damage and it doesn't die as quickly as an ele. i think that a ranger can do better dps, but an ele can nuke the crap out of things with big damage hits. besides i always prefer to play classes with real weapons such as warriors and rangers. i dont really fancy the whole necro/mage scene.

Kai Nui · Oct 13, 2005, 04:44 AM // 04:44

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Originally Posted by Aris

i havnt started playing yet, need to wait till mid month pay check. but im very interested. i just have one major question before i roll a character.

what are the "overplayed" proffessions? and the "underplayed" ones?

also, what jobs does every party always want.

for pve and pvp. and if its different between the 2 please specify.

i just dont want to make a character to find out later that im the "rogue from world of warcraft" kind of proffesion and no one wants me cause theirs a million too many of me already.

thanks.

Overplayed professions : Warrior/Monk and Elementalist/Monk for the wrong reasons. It doesn't take a lot of skill to be effective with them, they pretty much just have a lot of energy at their disposal or just slash and hack until they can click their even tougher attacking skills.

Underplayed professions : Mesmer, Monk, Necromancer all are underused because of the difficulty it is to use them properly and effectively. Their armour is the weakest and are important if used correctly so they are the first to be targeted.

Every team wants a monk or two for healing because no other class can provide aide to the team like a monk can. Mo/X and E/Mo are very common use.

It's different between the two, but I've said all I really want to.

Oct 12, 2005, 10:44 PM // 22:44	#1
Aris Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2005	Proffesion Popularity? i havnt started playing yet, need to wait till mid month pay check. but im very interested. i just have one major question before i roll a character. what are the "overplayed" proffessions? and the "underplayed" ones? also, what jobs does every party always want. for pve and pvp. and if its different between the 2 please specify. i just dont want to make a character to find out later that im the "rogue from world of warcraft" kind of proffesion and no one wants me cause theirs a million too many of me already. thanks.

Oct 12, 2005, 11:08 PM // 23:08	#5
Feloriene Bluewolf Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: R/E	My main character is a Ranger/Elementalist build which I've found to be a healthy ranged damage dealer . Some worry about the energy drain, but I've never experienced a problem with it - and it only gets better with some good runes and weapon upgrades . I also caved and created a W/Mo to try it out, but I've yet to get one past pre-searing (get bored and delete her to make way for testing other builds out). I'm keen to combine the Monk's speedy energy recharge with the Ele's energy storage. Last edited by Feloriene Bluewolf; Oct 12, 2005 at 11:12 PM // 23:12..

Oct 12, 2005, 10:54 PM // 22:54	#2
b3h3m0th Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: PA, Wilks Barre Profession: W/Mo	lots of ppl play Warriors in this game (W/Mo to be exact) but the player that probably never gets accepted to mission is mesmers... dunno about monks now, for me its been easier getting monks

Oct 12, 2005, 11:01 PM // 23:01	#4
Aris Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2005	awsome thanks. i almost never play melee characters in rpg's. i always prefer the ranged nuking class like mage and ranger. ive been eyeballing an elem/mesmer or an elem/monk. could you tell me if any proffesion has an edge when it comes to "maximum range" when doing damage, or is it the same for everyone?

Oct 12, 2005, 11:27 PM // 23:27	#7
Aris Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2005	yeah i mean how far away from your target can you be and what about just regular spells vs say a longbow? and are elementalist AOE's all in a circle around the caster? or are their aoe's that i can cast on say a foe 30meters ahead of me and it effect everything around him and you said "wands and staff are next", do you mean they are considered ranged weapons, ie: they shoot somthing from them. or are they melee weapons like swords and axes.

Oct 13, 2005, 12:01 AM // 00:01	#8
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	About AOEs, the answer is both. Different AOE skills do different things. For example, Inferno casts around the caster, while Searing Heat casts on a target location.

Oct 13, 2005, 12:29 AM // 00:29	#10
Melkor of ZoSo Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005	Usualy an Ele/x or a Ranger/Ele can be about... 25 feet from the enemy? But that doesnt really matter, I assure you. You can attack with distance spells and still be out of your enemies range of vision. It will come to you quickly. If you want a ranged nuker, go with Ranger/Elementalist or Elementalist/Monk. The latter will probably serve you better for self sufficience, but the Ranger/Elementalist can do more (Interupt oponents, have a pet, etc.) I always say that facing a Rng/Ele is like facing someone with a rocket launcher.

Oct 13, 2005, 12:34 AM // 00:34	#11
NeXuS8 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Wild Bladez Profession: W/Mo	There is distance for spells ur character casts it if they within the argro circle displayed on map, bows have diferent disatnces spells dont

Oct 13, 2005, 12:35 AM // 00:35	#12
Aris Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2005	so a ranger would be able to hit an elementalist way before an elementalist can cast a damage spell on the ranger?

Oct 13, 2005, 12:49 AM // 00:49	#14
Aris Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2005	so a long bow has only a slight range advantage against an elementalist spells, but arrows can be dodge, and spells cant? lets pretend you build a ranger and an elementalist to do as much ranged damage as possible. and pretend that the rangers target didnt "manually" dodge any arrows. which proffesion would have a higher DPS?

Oct 13, 2005, 03:25 AM // 03:25	#15
Rico Carridan Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Eternal Comrades Profession: E/Mo	Against a single target, I think a ranger would have a higher DPS than an elementalist. Elementalist spells can have longer casting times that can be detrimental to raw DPS, although they can still spike reasonably well (which is arguably more important that constant DPS, though rangers are excellent spikers too). Against multiple targets (particularly in PvE), elementalist is the most powerful by a good margin. With possibly the exception of certain monk or warrior builds in very specific situations. Rico

Oct 13, 2005, 03:56 AM // 03:56	#16
BeatWolf Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005	Mesmers need a boost pve wise, pvp wise they can own alot but also die alot

Oct 13, 2005, 04:11 AM // 04:11	#17
HANK Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2005	I think elem make a huge difference with their nukin when playin, especially the later missions; more diffficult. All classes have their purpose. W/mo is very popular and monks are always in demand (specially harder missions). But just cause you're a monk or elem doesn't mean people will take you. We had a monk 2 days ago lvl 20, going into fow who didn't bring a res. wow, that was sad. However if you're good at what your class is meant to do, people will want you.

Oct 13, 2005, 04:39 AM // 04:39	#18
William The Smasher Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Masters Of Pawnage Profession: R/E	i personally play a r/e and i love it. it does quite a bit of damage and it doesn't die as quickly as an ele. i think that a ranger can do better dps, but an ele can nuke the crap out of things with big damage hits. besides i always prefer to play classes with real weapons such as warriors and rangers. i dont really fancy the whole necro/mage scene.